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Start making contact and complaints! Time is running out. We will see some more aggressive propaganda pushing the unneeded additional au extension again very soon I'm sure.
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Start making contact and complaints! Time is running out. We will see some more aggressive propaganda pushing the unneeded additional au extension again very soon I'm sure.
Honan
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Hi Tim, You want someone to check all LLLL .com.au or just all LLLL .com.au acronymns?
DomainNames
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Don't forget to also pay and register the other global 3000 extensions of it to "protect" your client... and help out the profits of the struggling registrars, ICAAN etc....LOL.
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Class Action Lawsuit.
Would it be feasible for a class action lawsuit against the proposed additional un needed au extension. I like many people paid auDA a lot for .com.au names at their auction years ago. auDA made $ Millions of dollars from that auction and the subsequent renewals.
https://www.auda.org.au/news/auda-launches-generic-domain-name-auction/
auDA Launches Generic Domain Name Auction
Posted by Jo Lim on 18 December 2001
3,006 domain names like shopping.com.au and sport.com.au are now available
Melbourne, 18 December 2001 - Australia’s Internet domain name industry regulator, the .au Domain Administration (auDA), today launched the auction process for 3,006 domain names previously classified as ‘generic’ and unavailable to Australian businesses.
Chris Disspain, CEO, auDA said, “Following a public policy review, auDA is lifting the prohibition on generic domain names in com.au and making those names available to Australian businesses by way of auction.”
“The .au domain is a public resource that auDA is managing in the interests of all Australians. A market-based allocation system is the best option to prevent a “landrush” and ensure a fair and equitable outcome.”
auDA has contracted online auction house Stuff.com.au to manage the application and auction process. A list of available names has been published at http://www.stuff.com.au/auda.asp"
Applicants must apply for the name of their choice through the web site. auDA will assess the eligibility of applicants based on the new com.au policy, outlined on the application form.
If an applicant is the only eligible applicant for a particular name, they can reserve that name for a fee of $110 (inc. GST). There may be several eligible applicants for a name, in which case the name will be auctioned. Those eligible for participation will be notified of the date and time of their auction.
“auDA is concerned to give all Australian businesses, especially small businesses, an equal opportunity to secure these attractive domain names. The strict eligibility criteria will minimise the risk of large multinationals and domain name speculators buying up all the good names,” said Disspain.
The closing date for applications is 31 January 2002.
Successful applicants will not be able to register and use their domain name until the new policy is introduced during the first half of 2002.
Any names that are not reserved or auctioned as part of this process will become available for registration on a “first come, first served” basis when the new policy is introduced.
-ENDS-
For media contact:
Web entrepreneur Alan Rogers is a happy man. His decision to fork out $153,000 to snare the domain name www.flowers.com.au in Australia's recent generic domain auction has already paid off.
Chris Disspain
Chief Executive Officer
tel: 03 9349 4711
email: ceo@auda.org.au
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http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/09/29/1032734373953.html
Generic name auction a blooming success
By David Adams
October 1 2002
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Rogers says that since the name went live at the start of September, the number of hits on his online flower-ordering business - Flourish Network - has tripled.
By the middle of last week the number of hits had topped 750,000 and he says it was possible they would reach one million for all of September. Rogers also obtained the generic name florists.com.au for around $45,000. He says previous visitors to his website flowersonthenet.com.au would find it via a search engine.
"We find that with a generic name, people just type it into the browser and it bypasses all the search engines," he says.
"Before, we had to get up on all the search engines, but now our stats are showing us people are going straight to the browser and typing in flowers.com.au."
The auction, announced late last year, involved 3006 generic domain names and attracted 9900 applications.
The sale of generic domain names - those that describe or represent a commercial category, occupation or industry - was banned here until this year under a policy implemented by the former administrator of the country's domain-name system, Australian Internet pioneer Robert Elz.
The chief executive officer of the .au Domain Administration (auDA), Chris Disspain, said last week the auction process had now finished.
All auctions had been completed and auDA was collecting outstanding accounts, he said in an e-mail. "We will announce the amount raised when we have closed off the book."
AuDA said about 1370 further generic names were not allocated through the auction and would be listed on the auDA website from 11am today. They will be available for registration from 11am Thursday on a first come, first served basis.
Figures are not yet available, but it is believed the money raised will reach into the millions.
Mr Disspain has declined to release the amounts that names sold for, saying he would need the consent of each holder to reveal how much they paid.
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https://www.ausregistry.com.au/prem...s-a-valuable-asset-for-australian-businesses/
Premium .com.au domain names a valuable asset for Australian businesses
Would it be feasible for a class action lawsuit against the proposed additional un needed au extension. I like many people paid auDA a lot for .com.au names at their auction years ago. auDA made $ Millions of dollars from that auction and the subsequent renewals.
https://www.auda.org.au/news/auda-launches-generic-domain-name-auction/
auDA Launches Generic Domain Name Auction
Posted by Jo Lim on 18 December 2001
3,006 domain names like shopping.com.au and sport.com.au are now available
Melbourne, 18 December 2001 - Australia’s Internet domain name industry regulator, the .au Domain Administration (auDA), today launched the auction process for 3,006 domain names previously classified as ‘generic’ and unavailable to Australian businesses.
Chris Disspain, CEO, auDA said, “Following a public policy review, auDA is lifting the prohibition on generic domain names in com.au and making those names available to Australian businesses by way of auction.”
“The .au domain is a public resource that auDA is managing in the interests of all Australians. A market-based allocation system is the best option to prevent a “landrush” and ensure a fair and equitable outcome.”
auDA has contracted online auction house Stuff.com.au to manage the application and auction process. A list of available names has been published at http://www.stuff.com.au/auda.asp"
Applicants must apply for the name of their choice through the web site. auDA will assess the eligibility of applicants based on the new com.au policy, outlined on the application form.
If an applicant is the only eligible applicant for a particular name, they can reserve that name for a fee of $110 (inc. GST). There may be several eligible applicants for a name, in which case the name will be auctioned. Those eligible for participation will be notified of the date and time of their auction.
“auDA is concerned to give all Australian businesses, especially small businesses, an equal opportunity to secure these attractive domain names. The strict eligibility criteria will minimise the risk of large multinationals and domain name speculators buying up all the good names,” said Disspain.
The closing date for applications is 31 January 2002.
Successful applicants will not be able to register and use their domain name until the new policy is introduced during the first half of 2002.
Any names that are not reserved or auctioned as part of this process will become available for registration on a “first come, first served” basis when the new policy is introduced.
-ENDS-
For media contact:
Web entrepreneur Alan Rogers is a happy man. His decision to fork out $153,000 to snare the domain name www.flowers.com.au in Australia's recent generic domain auction has already paid off.
Chris Disspain
Chief Executive Officer
tel: 03 9349 4711
email: ceo@auda.org.au
____________
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/09/29/1032734373953.html
Generic name auction a blooming success
By David Adams
October 1 2002
Next
Rogers says that since the name went live at the start of September, the number of hits on his online flower-ordering business - Flourish Network - has tripled.
By the middle of last week the number of hits had topped 750,000 and he says it was possible they would reach one million for all of September. Rogers also obtained the generic name florists.com.au for around $45,000. He says previous visitors to his website flowersonthenet.com.au would find it via a search engine.
"We find that with a generic name, people just type it into the browser and it bypasses all the search engines," he says.
"Before, we had to get up on all the search engines, but now our stats are showing us people are going straight to the browser and typing in flowers.com.au."
The auction, announced late last year, involved 3006 generic domain names and attracted 9900 applications.
The sale of generic domain names - those that describe or represent a commercial category, occupation or industry - was banned here until this year under a policy implemented by the former administrator of the country's domain-name system, Australian Internet pioneer Robert Elz.
The chief executive officer of the .au Domain Administration (auDA), Chris Disspain, said last week the auction process had now finished.
All auctions had been completed and auDA was collecting outstanding accounts, he said in an e-mail. "We will announce the amount raised when we have closed off the book."
AuDA said about 1370 further generic names were not allocated through the auction and would be listed on the auDA website from 11am today. They will be available for registration from 11am Thursday on a first come, first served basis.
Figures are not yet available, but it is believed the money raised will reach into the millions.
Mr Disspain has declined to release the amounts that names sold for, saying he would need the consent of each holder to reveal how much they paid.
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https://www.ausregistry.com.au/prem...s-a-valuable-asset-for-australian-businesses/
Premium .com.au domain names a valuable asset for Australian businesses
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https://www.oecd.org/sti/ieconomy/32996948.pdf
" The existence of defensive registrations, as well as a combination of domain name speculation and traffic aggregation, makes it difficult to assess the real demand for the new gTLDs that have been introduced. Initial experience suggests that user demand for new names may be relatively limited. Much of the user focus is still on .com and the other traditional names, with market acceptance of new names being lower than projected. "
" The existence of defensive registrations, as well as a combination of domain name speculation and traffic aggregation, makes it difficult to assess the real demand for the new gTLDs that have been introduced. Initial experience suggests that user demand for new names may be relatively limited. Much of the user focus is still on .com and the other traditional names, with market acceptance of new names being lower than projected. "
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If you paid $153,000 for your .com.au domain name to auDA you would too would be pretty concerned with the push by supply and auDA and Ausregistry, Melbourne It etc to dump another new competing extension into the market.
Does Ausregistry, auDA, Melbourne IT and board members seriously think it is fair on the millions of .com.au owners most who have not been contacted or surveyed at all?
Australian and auDA are the only body that reserved and then auctioned the generic domain names in the first place to make massive profits and $millions of dollars.
Could anyone who paid auDA at the auctions for their .com.au generic name has a good case for possible legal action with the way the proposed extra .au extension has been publicised and the "yes vote" rigging from some with a vested interest who will profit from it.
Will .com.au owners again be "blackmailed" into bidding to protect and defend their .com.au investment?
There is also a rumour someone told someone they would receive a bonus from their employer for helping get the new proposed .au extension through the last board meeting....It may be why a lot of very pro new extensions was being put out in media releases and other marketing materials. This would be a very serious matter if it was true and a cause for great concern.
Who does auDA, Ausregistry and others including the board think the target market is for this?
Selective limited voting and "Yes Only" Vote stacking was a scam. What is auDA and the board going to do about it now it has been exposed? There are even board members who feel they have been scammed into agreeing and did not realise a lot of the facts or that one board member company seemed to definately have conflicts of interest in their solicitatons for yes only votes that sways the suvey results falsely.
Does Ausregistry, auDA, Melbourne IT and board members seriously think it is fair on the millions of .com.au owners most who have not been contacted or surveyed at all?
Australian and auDA are the only body that reserved and then auctioned the generic domain names in the first place to make massive profits and $millions of dollars.
Could anyone who paid auDA at the auctions for their .com.au generic name has a good case for possible legal action with the way the proposed extra .au extension has been publicised and the "yes vote" rigging from some with a vested interest who will profit from it.
Will .com.au owners again be "blackmailed" into bidding to protect and defend their .com.au investment?
There is also a rumour someone told someone they would receive a bonus from their employer for helping get the new proposed .au extension through the last board meeting....It may be why a lot of very pro new extensions was being put out in media releases and other marketing materials. This would be a very serious matter if it was true and a cause for great concern.
Who does auDA, Ausregistry and others including the board think the target market is for this?
Selective limited voting and "Yes Only" Vote stacking was a scam. What is auDA and the board going to do about it now it has been exposed? There are even board members who feel they have been scammed into agreeing and did not realise a lot of the facts or that one board member company seemed to definately have conflicts of interest in their solicitatons for yes only votes that sways the suvey results falsely.
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It appears as if the demand questions is answered here by Ausregistry previously!
If people want a good name there is the aftermarket! There is also in most cases the .net.au name still available!
https://www.ausregistry.com.au/prem...s-a-valuable-asset-for-australian-businesses/
" Purchasing premium generics
I encourage business owners to consider registering a premium generic .com.au domain name.
In most cases, premium generic domain names will have already been registered. This does not mean they are unavailable for purchase though.
Various Registrars provide expired domain and aftermarket auction services to help businesses acquire highly sought-after domain names. Simply contact your preferred registrar and ask how they can help you register the perfect domain name for your business. For a list of the Australian Registrars, visit the AusRegistry website.
By George Pongas| December 23rd, 2013"
If people want a good name there is the aftermarket! There is also in most cases the .net.au name still available!
https://www.ausregistry.com.au/prem...s-a-valuable-asset-for-australian-businesses/
" Purchasing premium generics
I encourage business owners to consider registering a premium generic .com.au domain name.
In most cases, premium generic domain names will have already been registered. This does not mean they are unavailable for purchase though.
Various Registrars provide expired domain and aftermarket auction services to help businesses acquire highly sought-after domain names. Simply contact your preferred registrar and ask how they can help you register the perfect domain name for your business. For a list of the Australian Registrars, visit the AusRegistry website.
By George Pongas| December 23rd, 2013"
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The introduction of direct registrations in developed markets, with established ccTLDs already in place, has been a complete flop to say the least. .uk and .nz are good examples of this.
There has only been what I would call 'success' (in terms of adoption rates for the direct registration option) in developing markets, where ccTLD use was still in the early stages when direct registrations were introduced. India is a perfect example of this. In that market, .in is now the favoured option (over .co.in); and that is clearly reflected in the registration figures and aftermarket sales.
Where direct registrations have been introduced in developed markets (e.g. the UK), the existing second-level commercial extensions (e.g. .co.uk) have continued to dominate in terms of usage and market awareness. This has also been reflected in the registration figures and aftermarket sales.
If they want to grow the market in Australia, then a much more sensible solution would be simplifying the regulation of the .au namespace.
Options include (I'm not saying do all of these, just putting them out there):
There has only been what I would call 'success' (in terms of adoption rates for the direct registration option) in developing markets, where ccTLD use was still in the early stages when direct registrations were introduced. India is a perfect example of this. In that market, .in is now the favoured option (over .co.in); and that is clearly reflected in the registration figures and aftermarket sales.
Where direct registrations have been introduced in developed markets (e.g. the UK), the existing second-level commercial extensions (e.g. .co.uk) have continued to dominate in terms of usage and market awareness. This has also been reflected in the registration figures and aftermarket sales.
If they want to grow the market in Australia, then a much more sensible solution would be simplifying the regulation of the .au namespace.
Options include (I'm not saying do all of these, just putting them out there):
- allowing individuals to register .com.au/.net.au domains. If it's good enough for .com, .net, .co.uk, .co.nz, .co, .co.za ...etc - surely it's good enough for .com.au/.net.au?!
- allowing overseas individuals or entities to register .com.au/.net.au domains in the same manner as local registrants (no additional criteria). Many other ccTLDs are open to people from anywhere in the world.
- removing the allocation criteria entirely.
findtim
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don't forget rebranding, stationery, signage etccccccccccccc
i remember back in 2001 how HARDDDDDDDDDD it was to get people to register a .com.au in their business name ! let alone have them create a website, of the people i convinced the domain was a good idea only 25% created a website within the next 10 years, a few still haven't.
the destinction between developed markets and non is a key one, it makes the WORLD of diference as .com.au isn't a domain extension....... its a brand..... a very solid brand and an expectation in the community, if you have a business name then people EXPECT you have it as a .com.au
auda have missed the point, the real purpose for a change and are clouded by profit potential. i think its either or but not both .com.au and .au,
tim
snoopy
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Cheers, interesting info.
If you look at the what surfers use in terms of local sites, it is split 3 ways
http://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries/IN (take note of the local sites in that list)
Split between .co.in, .in and .com. I think the end result of that is that the local namespace is weak. Last I looked China was similar. I think if .au ever gained traction in Australia .com would also gain traction because people would no longer have a clear choice. If you don't know what to choose between .com.au & .au you might as well consider .com also.
Still I think .au will fail in the market place just like .uk is failing.
snoopy
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Just out on interest it seems to me that the .uk market is basically shot, according to namebio.com
2016 - Aftermarket sales
.co.uk - 172
.uk - 1
https://namebio.com
Pretty surprised to see .uk volumes that low.
2016 - Aftermarket sales
.co.uk - 172
.uk - 1
https://namebio.com
Pretty surprised to see .uk volumes that low.
Data Glasses
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Just for website development spam
Scott.L
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Germany is doing the opposite, the Germans think introducing the .com.de is a far better extension than the current 17 million registered .de extensions...lol
Exert taken from com.de website;
40% of all registered country code domains currently carry their respective .com.xx domain extension. This percentage is growing rapidly as demand increases for globally visible domains with great names and commercial appeal.
Australia with .com.au, Brazil with .com.br and China with .com.cn, are amongst the 97 countries that use .com.xx extensions to successfully represent commercial websites.
Leveraging the global recognition and proven success of these domain extensions, .com.de presents an exceptional opportunity to attain instant presence in the German and global markets without any restrictions.
Exert taken from com.de website;
40% of all registered country code domains currently carry their respective .com.xx domain extension. This percentage is growing rapidly as demand increases for globally visible domains with great names and commercial appeal.
Australia with .com.au, Brazil with .com.br and China with .com.cn, are amongst the 97 countries that use .com.xx extensions to successfully represent commercial websites.
Leveraging the global recognition and proven success of these domain extensions, .com.de presents an exceptional opportunity to attain instant presence in the German and global markets without any restrictions.
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