Draft recommendations from the 2015 Names Policy Panel

[findtim]

i was amazed of the structure of auda and ausreg once i became aware of it just a few years ago, for the previous 10+ years i honestly believed it was a governing body.
but in actual fact i believed that it was a government body that conducted business via MelbourneIT, thats how naive the average person is to understanding what is going on with their domain name future.
i thought MelbourneIT was top of the tree and sooooooooooooooo many of my clients have thought the same because most my new clients pay the silly $147 they charge.
tim

 

[snoopy]

i was amazed of the structure of auda and ausreg once i became aware of it just a few years ago, for the previous 10+ years i honestly believed it was a governing body.
but in actual fact i believed that it was a government body that conducted business via MelbourneIT, thats how naive the average person is to understanding what is going on with their domain name future.
i thought MelbourneIT was top of the tree and sooooooooooooooo many of my clients have thought the same because most my new clients pay the silly $147 they charge.
tim

Not sure I follow, but MelbourneIt was the top of the tree for a while. They predate AUDA by a long time and the "government body" isn't all that far off initially.

http://melbourneit.info/about-us/our-history

 

[findtim]

ok, so how i see it is, in 2000 i registered a domain with MIT and created an online business, then it was many years before i entered this present state of auda, drop, nf , netreg, crazyd, etcccc, somewhere @ 2011-2 i think.
i was just doing "my own thing"

tim

 

[Andrew Wright]

Someone's gone very quiet all of a sudden.

 

[Andrew Wright]

Flying Solo thread here - http://www.flyingsolo.com.au/forums...ace-com-au-as-main-au-name.35659/#post-219872

 

[findtim]

i posted

 

[James]

George Pongas has posted on the new domains today - https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/product-innovation-produce-next-3-million-au-domains-george-pongas

 

[Bacon Farmer]

Neddy over at domainer.com.au has come off the sidelines to ask a few questions of one of the other panel members public stance.

Brett Fenton claims domainers have a vested interest but with the prospect of 2.5 million defensive registrations coming up, forgets to acknowledge his vested interest. Ka ching!

 

[findtim]

everybody has a vested interest, but once again i'll say, very few domain owners know about this which is going to cause problems down the track.
tim

 

[Andrew Wright]

And suddenly a flurry of posts. And look who's posting - Melbourne IT and Ausregistry. Hmm. Where's David? Or has he been muzzled...

 

[findtim]

When contacting clients, don't forget to ask them who else they know in their industries that would be interested in taking the survey.
i contacted one client today and he is part of a buying group of 40 businesses, just 1 phone call and email to then inform another 40 DOMAIN NAME OWNERS, yes NOT domainers as we are being tarred with, business people.
i simply can not phone all the people my "6 degrees of separation" has, but i can get an email to them.

tim

 

[Bacon Farmer]

Here's some numbers to consider.

97% of current Aussie domains are .com.au or .net.au.

A large number of these owners are going to be forced to make defensive registrations.

In real dollar terms that is as much as 97% of 3 million domains x say $23 registration costs = $66.9 million every two years.

It could be as bad as $436.5 million if they register via Melbourne IT ($149.99 ouch).

Current owners are going to be taxed to enable individuals can get a .au domain because they're too snobby to get a .id.au or too lazy to type .com.au?

 

[Bacon Farmer]

You'd think that with such a massive issue auDA could email those 97% of their clients who are about to be stuffed over.

They have their emails and it is a big issue, so why not auDA?

Ned reckons they think they would be seen as spamming. WTF really?

<Insert a John McEnroe meme> "YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!!! </>

 

[findtim]

It could be as bad as $436.5 million if they register via Melbourne IT ($149.99 ouch).

whats to say its not going to be the standard price for .au? , as nothing has been mentioned about price has it ?

tim

 

[snoopy]

You'd think that with such a massive issue auDA could email those 97% of their clients who are about to be stuffed over.

They have their emails and it is a big issue, so why not auDA?

Ned reckons they think they would be seen as spamming. WTF really?

<Insert a John McEnroe meme> "YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!!! </>

I don't think many domain owners would really want to be getting email from AUDA. The spamming issue is valid because near 0% would have signed up for any AUDA emails.

 

[Bacon Farmer]

It's not a commercial email so it's not really spam per se.

http://www.acma.gov.au/Industry/Mar...of-the-spam-act-ensuring-you-dont-spam-i-acma

And here's what can be sent:

http://www.acma.gov.au/Industry/Mar...spam-exemptions-ensuring-you-dont-spam-i-acma

I think this issue fits that scenario.

 

[findtim]

I don't think many domain owners would really want to be getting email from AUDA. The spamming issue is valid because near 0% would have signed up for any AUDA emails.

every single person i have contacted has said "thank you for letting me know" and every one is against it.
when there is a federal election my letter box becomes FULL , so the "we don't want to spam" is crap
"0%" , F me, 99.99% don't know auda exists and thats the way they like it.

tim

 

[findtim]

It's not a commercial email so it's not really spam

its THE governing body ! , why are we talking spam? its information that SHOULD be distributed to all concerned.
tim

 

[Andrew Wright]

I don't think many domain owners would really want to be getting email from AUDA. The spamming issue is valid because near 0% would have signed up for any AUDA emails.

Yet, as I've posted before, Auda already contact all new registrants...

 

[Joel]

A very small percentage would see it is spam - the vast majority would no doubt be thankful to know what is going and have the chance to voice their opinion.