Andrew Wright
Top Contributor
The registry does though... follow the money.
Draft recommendations from the 2015 Names Policy Panel
- Thread starter eBranding.com.au
- Start date
Bacon Farmer
Top Contributor
With respect to the French system, I'd suggest that if the requirements to enter ABN's etc were removed here, then you'd see a lot more "individual" registrations too on behalf of businesses. I wouldn't fill in my ABN on a newly purchased domain if there was no reason to.
So really the French "evidence" isn't supportive to your case. Myth busted.
So really the French "evidence" isn't supportive to your case. Myth busted.
Bacon Farmer
Top Contributor
When a registry sells a digital product the costs involved are basically fixed. So doubling the sales will make a huge difference to their profitability (it reeks of rent seeking).
We also shouldn't have to provide funding for foundations such as the one created by auDA. If there are excess funds, bring the prices down.
We also shouldn't have to provide funding for foundations such as the one created by auDA. If there are excess funds, bring the prices down.
David Goldstein
Top Contributor
Do I have to spoon feed the children here as well? The .se link shows that at least people registered the domains when they were free while they didn't register the .id.au domains when they weren't free. None of the evidence is anecdotal.
David Goldstein
Top Contributor
Yes, but in your ignorance you don't see that the .com.au rules won't be changed. So the French example does support my case.
David Goldstein
Top Contributor
The registry may or may not. It might not even be the same registry. There could be separate tenders for .au and the 2LDs. The .au domain could be free for 5 years... there are oodles of options. The registry can make lots of money if you're happy to let them. Anyway, nice try at trying to shift the goalposts.
David Goldstein
Top Contributor
Yeah. I know. You wouldn't want to see what happens when the change actually happens. Because the evidence just destroys your arguments.
Andrew Wright
Top Contributor
Gibberish.
Andrew Wright
Top Contributor
What Goalposts? Who stands to gain from the introduction of .au? Who is driving this? And why? Do I really have to spoonfeed you? Maybe this press release from Ausregistry will give you a clue - https://www.ausregistry.com.au/ausregistry-and-auda-launch-the-2015-au-survey. "It might not even be the same registry" - yeah, right.
Andrew Wright
Top Contributor
Another Ausregistry announcement https://www.ausregistry.com.au/product-innovation-will-produce-the-next-3-million-au-domains. Are you seeing a pattern yet?
Bacon Farmer
Top Contributor
Yeah but in your self deception you don't see that businesses will most likely choose to buy the .au over the .com.au because it is shorter, snappier and more appealing and has less red tape associated with it.
David Goldstein
Top Contributor
So in other words it wouldn't matter what evidence was presented, you'd still be opposed... it's that Colbert description of Bush again... "what I like about the president is he believes on Wednesday what he believed on Monday no matter what happened Tuesday". A perfect description...
David Goldstein
Top Contributor
That would be terrible if registrants thought second level domains were more appealing...
David Goldstein
Top Contributor
Now, to continue the spoon feeding, there is a contract between auDA and AusRegistry. That comes up for tender again in the next year or 2. It's possible another company will win the tender even. Or that 2 separate companies could operate 2 different registries.
And if you'd bother to understand the relationship between auDA and its registry, AusRegistry, I think you'll find that joint research and marketing activities are mandated in the registry contract and would exist regardless of who the registry operator is...
I'm running out of baby food... help!
Andrew Wright
Top Contributor
Again...All the .se link proves is that if you give away something for free, people will take it just because it's free - 17,000 .be domains on the first day for example (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.be). It's got nothing to do with demand for a paid product.
Andrew Wright
Top Contributor
Yeah, right, like that it going to happen... Contract runs up to 30 June 2018 - and it's been renewed every time since 2002.
Previously...
"AusRegistry didn’t have to face any competition to get its contract extension. A ‘competition panel’ set up by auDA to look at the issue recommended that there should be no competition."
http://www.ecommercereport.com.au/story81.php
Also... http://domainincite.com/10803-cocca-withdraws-from-aptld-over-support-for-ausregistry-monopoly
Last edited:
Bacon Farmer
Top Contributor
It is if they have to make a defensive purchase for their current .com.au domains. Doh!
findtim
Top Contributor
just going to bump this link as since this thread started there has been some interesting feedback on it.
http://www.domainer.com.au/draft-recommendations-from-the-2015-names-policy-panel/
tim
http://www.domainer.com.au/draft-recommendations-from-the-2015-names-policy-panel/
tim
DomainNames
Top Contributor
Reminds me of a saying" it's not what you know ...it's who you know"
It may go to "closed tender" and the invited single tenderer will be.... you guessed it...
Let the Federal Government take it all over including domain disputes.
http://domainincite.com/10803-cocca-withdraws-from-aptld-over-support-for-ausregistry-monopoly
"In an email to APTLD last week, CoCCA director Garth Miller said:
That AusRegistry, a large for-profit company that is an associate member of APTLD can simply make a phone call to a board member and get the board to make a public submission on behalf of all members that a scheduled public tender be cancelled and AusRegistry be awarded the contract – worth as much as several hundred million dollars, because they have made substantial contributions to the APLTD in the past and are likely to do so in the future if awarded the contract is, in my view, disturbing."
