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findtim

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longtail emd has been ranking well for yearsssss as people got frustrated by getting feed domains that didn't give them what they want, so they longtailed to refine the choice.

then google bought in its search feature years ago that helps you with the drop down selection to save you typing, i think this has helped the longtail.

i personally wouldn't go over 3 words, i'm got a 3 word emd i'm developing right now so well see what happens.

i've noticed the google exacts lower the more words you have in the domain, feel free to contradict me

tim
 

snoopy

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I think it is obvious the EMD update is a multi word issue. If the EMD is low quality multi word..like "cheapusedcars", then you should be worried about what the EMD will do to your business, but if you have a one word cat. killer, then its obviously a different story..

Why google care about the number of words in a domain? Plenty of of low quality sites using one word .com.au's.
 

goldnugget

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longtail emd has been ranking well for yearsssss as people got frustrated by getting feed domains that didn't give them what they want, so they longtailed to refine the choice.

then google bought in its search feature years ago that helps you with the drop down selection to save you typing, i think this has helped the longtail.

i personally wouldn't go over 3 words, i'm got a 3 word emd i'm developing right now so well see what happens.

i've noticed the google exacts lower the more words you have in the domain, feel free to contradict me

tim

Also commenting on the previous post about 'cheap travel insurance'...Even though the exacts may come down, as long as google is recognising multi word matching, the quality of the exacts is increasing. By this I mean if you have a site that only sells travel insurance and someone just types in insurance....chances are you will be lost in the sea of insurance sites and not seen anyway....someone types in 'travel insurance'...your chances of being thrown up in front of the user are better....if the searcher happens to type in 'cheap travel insurance'....then you are an exact match to what they are looking for and most likely to get a hit on your site.

In my view from what I have seen so far (especially one word domains), they are too broad......cars.com may be worth a fortune as a trophy site, but the reality is when people search for something online they will type in more than one word to narrow their search...that is (IMHO) where the domainer needs to work out what they are looking for when selecting domains to buy and register...do you want a site for grandstanding, or a site that acually matches what searchers are looking for and brings in the money?

Cigarette is lit....blindfold is on...let it rip :cool:
 

findtim

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cars is a bad example whereas "rankings.com.au" is a good example.

cars , someone wants a car so you place good content and you have a winner. if someone wants a bmw 501 bla bla then if cars comes up you instantly have cred

rankings, that one is broad so you will get a lot of bounced visits, but also with good content you can stop it from showing up EVERYWHERE and make it rank high in the spot you want it to be in.

it always makes me laugh that many SEO companies own domain doesn't rank :D

tim
 

goldnugget

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Hmmm I have one of those 'web' companies just down the road from me and I always get a giggle by the 'No1 on search results Guaranteed' plastered on their outside wall....search for what exactly? Their full business name and location? Thats a given.

It gives the whole seo aspect of web development a bad name in my view. Anyone can get a site to rank for 'something', but is it ranking for the right reasons? Is it actually ranking for likely generic search terms that people would type into a browser?

If we look at the real multiple aspects of websites we have the domainers that think certain single words are king (speculators), we have website developers that can make a site look pretty (digital creatives) but when it comes to seo many are almost useless, and then you have seo 'specialists' which may not have any digital artistic attributes in web development and are either set on paid placement or the few that can actually consider actual search methods used by real people to match them to their clients business (natural ranking). Its no wonder every man (or woman) and their dogs are all of a sudden 'specialists' in the field and there are so many difering opinions.

Thats why I say...it depends on what you want to do with it when it comes to worth.

Rankings.com.au .....unless I was flipping it for profit I would rather have something like webrankings.com (or non plural) and yes, based on my research I would snag the hyphen equivelents as well...purely because 'rankings' is still broad (player rankings, sports teams rankings?), 'web rankings' or 'site rankings' or 'website rankings' may have a drop in overall exacts, but those fewer exacts are actual dead exacts to the search.
 

findtim

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nobody should think an EMD is going to do ALL the work for you, i have a good emd in a highly competitive market that is 2nd organic, i know the competitor above us is paying @ $1200 a month to stay there organically, we are not :)

i'm just doing @ $150 worth of effort a month , funnily probably what their SEO company is doing for them :eek:

i think we might be heading off track on this thread, sorry.

tim
 

snoopy

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Regarding cars.com.au, there is a lot of credibility that come with it, it just sounds like a big site, a leading site.

But I have to agree with what goldnugget is saying, for anything but the largest venture it is way to broad. It suits someone like a carsales.com.au sized business, yet they own it and haven't done a thing with it aside from setting up a redirect. I'd say the name sucks in many ways despite its huge value. For the smaller web master they'd be way better off developing something specific.

Tim say "cars , someone wants a car so you place good content and you have a winner." I say bulldust that won't make a business or anything close to it. Put up 1000 articles written by your favourite content writer and the sites value will still be no more than the value of the name in my view. Might as well buy a block of land in Toorak and pitch a beach tent on it. Get 30,000 dealers to pay to advertise their inventory on your site and you'll have a winner. Don't worry it will only cost you about $1 billion to create that level of activity. There isn't much of a middle ground in my view, it is not going to have any relevance as a small site.

Most one word EMD's are going to be very difficult to develop. Something like credit.com.au for example - very little to latch onto. The people searching for "credit" will be looking for all sorts of things, so the EMD benefit is going to a questionable keyword. Cars.com.au is a bit like that, who really wants to target "cars"? What are they looking for, to buy cars?, sell cars?, pics of car?, new cars?, used cars?, car dealers in Sydney? There is two advertisers on the term, carsales.com.au & carsguide.com.au, nobody else is big enough or silly enough to bother trying to target this term. I suspect it is one of those keywords where google has priced it to hell because it is so vague & the advertising performance so poor (a bit like "sydney" or any other geo term).

The ideal domain is probably something with massive volume and extremely specific, but those names are uncommon in the extreme, especially one word names, because most single word domains describe an industry or class of products, not something specific. So what to do with great domains like this? Probably sell them.
 

findtim

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cars: by "good cotent" i did mean "get 30,000 dealers on it" that would create the content, not build a 1 page website, i just didn't say that sorry.

tim
 

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