builderquotes.com.au
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Honan
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Wo nurriesNo, you can sell it to me cheap It's worth nothing
Give me your low ball
Aren't we naughty talking sales in the appraisal section.
I feel like I should be spanked
findtim
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Aren't we naughty talking sales in the appraisal section.
I feel like I should be spanked
hahaha!
snoopy
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16 searches a month, definitely not a domain worth developing in itself.
Findtim mentions another site but that is also an example of a name with little intrinsic benefit from the domain in terms of development. Should we just start telling people they should develop anything based on another random site?
If the term "builder quotes" were popular the issue would really be breaking it down because it is going to be so broad in terms of what people want done and where they are located.
Findtim mentions another site but that is also an example of a name with little intrinsic benefit from the domain in terms of development. Should we just start telling people they should develop anything based on another random site?
If the term "builder quotes" were popular the issue would really be breaking it down because it is going to be so broad in terms of what people want done and where they are located.
findtim
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with your logic the only domain name that ranks first is one that is a search term
i think its broad scope is an asset to its developed potential
yeh snoopy, its worth nothing Ash, i'll help you out....
sell it to me tim
johno69
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snoopy
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with your logic the only domain name that ranks first is one that is a search term
i think its broad scope is an asset to its developed potential
yeh snoopy, its worth nothing Ash, i'll help you out....
tim
It is not whether the name could potentially rank or not. The question is how does this domain help.
We are sitting here as domainers, not people who register any old domain. Why would a domainer spend time developing a name with 16 searches when they could be building a name that works for them, ie a much clearer development path and much better stats behind it.
This name has the development potential of any old reg fee domain in my view. Broadness combined with very low metrics is not a good combination.
Don't you realise that the value in this domain is not in the search metrics? Surely by now you've worked out there are lots of distinct factors that make up a domain's valuation.
This domain is brandable, memorable and would have a great CTR in SERPs or Adwords. That's where the value is for this domain.
The other domain LoseWeightFastDiet.com.au (http://www.dntrade.com.au/loseweightfastdiet-com-au-t6007.html) is not brandable or memorable but does have some search volume and CPC. So that's where the value is for that domain.
You didn't like the latter because it didn't sound good? You don't like this one because it doesn't have search metrics to speak of? Stop hunting for reasons to not like domains and try and have some balance.
BTW at Sydstart, I met the guy who runs www.SolarQuotes.com.au. He's doing very well with his site & this type of name works really well for him.
snoopy
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How is that going to help a domainer who hopes to develop it. Where is the advantage in using this name, the target market is near zero. What will it have a great CTR for, a term that has 16 searches?
I didn't say it didn't sound good, I said it didn't make much sense.
The metrics aren't strong enough to justify developing it to make money from adsense in my view, that is the main problem.
I met the guy who runs ebay, I quizzed him for an hours "He can you make money when this isn't much of a natural search term". He laughed & laughed and told there is a world beyond search metrics with domains. He told me ebay does really because of the domain is brandable, its all about the domain for these types of companies, but it can also be a shitty domain!
Feel like I'm banging my head against a wall. Let me really, really simplify it.
Some domains have brandable value
Some domains have value based on metrics
Some domains have both types of value.
However (this is important), just because a domain only has one of these two elements doesn't mean it's worthless.
Some domains have brandable value
Some domains have value based on metrics
Some domains have both types of value.
However (this is important), just because a domain only has one of these two elements doesn't mean it's worthless.
findtim
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nobody is looking for a builder? i wonder why they are all driving mercedes on weekends?
tim
snoopy
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Nobody is looking for "builder quotes", well 16 people a month are.
snoopy
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Let me first say you are once again arguing against points that I have never even made, I'm not saying only domains with search metrics have value.
I think the key thing is this. Domainers look to gain an advantage from the domain. In terms of a "brandable domain" like this one, that characteristic applies to lots of domains, for the people who use those domains, they aren't really leveraging the domain, they are just choosing a name that suits their needs. It might be memorable, impressive, or even highly valuable, but it won't really get them far. It won't assist them getting lots of search engine traffic, get higher CTR's on adwords, make clients think they are the market leader. They'll be relying on other skills if they want to make a success of the site.
So for a domineer looking to choose a domain to develop, metrics absolutely matter. That is different to someone with an interest/passion in a certain area who just uses whatever domain and gains advantages from other means. Someone might be able to use whateverwatercoolers.com.au or solarquotes.com.au and build a business on it, but the domain won't have done much for them.
OK so why are you repeatedly referring to the metrics to justify how this domain is worthless?
Nobody is trying to value this domain in terms of it's metrics.
No one is arguing with you that the metrics are any good.
Evereybody agrees, it's not worth developing this domain to try and take advantage of it's exact match search volume.
The value in this domain for a domainer is in either:
Flipping to somebody in the industry (questionable)
Flipping to a developer who will fully develop the site into a lead generating machine to flog off leads to builders
If they have the skills developing the site themselves and not relying on exact match search terms for traffic
findtim
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well snoopy i can tell you "whateverwatercoolerswhocares AU" does very well thankyou
and snoopy you are consistant and predictable, you are consistantly negative which is cool because through that you bring forward valid points that we learn from, you are also consistant that you have no concept of value to an end user and i will relate it to this domain as you actually answer your own questions,
ummm, isn't that a domainers target market?
OMG, really ! somebody is silly enough to choose a name that suits them! come on snoopy isn't that how you made your money?
yes it will, at the very least it won't hurt.
well that whole paragraph is a minefield, i think there is consistant advice across dnt about sticking to the domains that represent your passion UNLESS they are killer domain names, as an investment to sit on and do nothing with you are probably right but to say its worth noting you are totally wrong.
tim
and snoopy you are consistant and predictable, you are consistantly negative which is cool because through that you bring forward valid points that we learn from, you are also consistant that you have no concept of value to an end user and i will relate it to this domain as you actually answer your own questions,
ummm, isn't that a domainers target market?
OMG, really ! somebody is silly enough to choose a name that suits them! come on snoopy isn't that how you made your money?
yes it will, at the very least it won't hurt.
well that whole paragraph is a minefield, i think there is consistant advice across dnt about sticking to the domains that represent your passion UNLESS they are killer domain names, as an investment to sit on and do nothing with you are probably right but to say its worth noting you are totally wrong.
tim
acheeva
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Honan
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"Don't be so humble - you are not that great."
- Golda Meir (1898-1978) to a visiting diplomat
It will be finished by Christmas
Builder
I was thinking more about quoting what builders say
There is no margin. I am working for nothing. The things builders say that makes me laugh
Of course the other meaning of quote might have ppl post designs with requests to quote
I do not have much faith in the KWT for Australia. The numbers can be all over the place.
Thanks snoop and D. For keeping this thread alive.
- Golda Meir (1898-1978) to a visiting diplomat
It will be finished by Christmas
Builder
I was thinking more about quoting what builders say
There is no margin. I am working for nothing. The things builders say that makes me laugh
Of course the other meaning of quote might have ppl post designs with requests to quote
I do not have much faith in the KWT for Australia. The numbers can be all over the place.
Thanks snoop and D. For keeping this thread alive.
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