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findtim

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And you have a partner who does not mind you searching the internet for subjects@!

LOL, i have a bucksparty website to build so i am FREE to surf LOL, now maybe the cost of the domain is actually worth something !!

I think this thread is turning downhill?

tim
 

snoopy

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Snoopy you shouldn't be so dismissive of EMD search volume. I know you've never developed a website but if you ever do, you'll discover how you can turn that search volume into visitors, then clicks/leads, and revenue.

I have developed perhaps a dozen domains in the past.

This applies for almost any domain - if people are searching for it's exact match, you have a huge advantage in the SE's, you see.

Advantage of whom? Nobody is even even willing to pay 10 cents a click. The traffic look to be near worthless to me.

And it doesn't have to be a huge investment. $50 on a minisite, $20 on content, $50 on some low-level off-page seo and you could might have a MFA site generating a few bucks/month.

So you spend $120 on a site plus $10 a year, to generate $36 revenue a year. That sounds like a loss to me.

Domaining has evolved from the 'register a heap of domains, park 'em for 10 years, then sell 'em off', I'm afraid. One has to work a bit harder and smarter than that these days to make a buck.

I think developing sites has evolved from MFA sites, that isn't an example of "working smarter".

However saying that, I think this domain (and associated search volume) is probably not quite good enough to justify development- unless you have a personal interest in the subject matter in which case it's more a labour of love!

...aah a post of nonsense follow by this admission that this domain isn't worth developing. How about just saying that from the start?
 

xwdomains

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Cam affiliates pay $40 per free cc signup dating sites pay $5-$20 per free lead no cc needed black label and juicy ads pay more then adsense .au is easier to rank for then .com many Australians would look up sexy ass any domain is worth more developed and it's not exactly hard to setup a cam affiliate you simply signup for the affiliate program and unzip the site I have got several checks from crocodile publishing running adult sites juicyads BA etc just because its Adult doesn't mean it won;t make money after all the adult industry is still one of the largest revenue generators online

bye
 

DavidL

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I have developed perhaps a dozen domains in the past.

I'm sorry they didn't work out. However my first 12 sites didn;t either. you should give it another go.

Advantage of whom? Nobody is even even willing to pay 10 cents a click. The traffic look to be near worthless to me.

Traffic is rarely worthless. As many people have suggested on this thread there are many different types of monetisation methods.

So you spend $120 on a site plus $10 a year, to generate $36 revenue a year. That sounds like a loss to me.

OK quick maths recap.

$36/year revenue on $10/year costs is $26/year profit.

With me so far?

A $120 investment with a $26/year profit equates to a 21.6% yield plus any appreciation of the domain.

Not actually a loss if you work it out. Certainly a lot better than the return on .com domains which have suffered a real loss of what 25% over the last 5 years (going from your previous comments - I thought it was more personally)

I think developing sites has evolved from MFA sites, that isn't an example of "working smarter".

Actually, MFA sites are a great way to get started especially for mediocre domains as they require next to no ongoing maintenance and are quick and easy to set up. As per the example above, you only need to make a buck a week to get a healthy return but better domains will make many times this amount.

Also it gives you a chance to identify which domains are getting the traffic so you can select them for further development. then leave the 'losers' making you a lousy 50% pa on your money of whatever.

...aah a post of nonsense follow by this admission that this domain isn't worth developing. How about just saying that from the start?

Sorry you didn't like the order of my points.

The main point I'd like you to take away and think about is that you shouldn't dismiss search volume as being irrelevant to the value of a domain. It does actually make a difference. Sadly for the OP, in this case, IMHO, the metrics don't really add up to justify developing.
 

snoopy

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I'm sorry they didn't work out. However my first 12 sites didn;t either. you should give it another go.

Not sure what you are talking about. My success rate is maybe 30%. Are you just making stuff up for the heck of it or just guessing?

Traffic is rarely worthless. As many people have suggested on this thread there are many different types of monetisation methods.

David this is what you said on this thread,

"However saying that, I think this domain (and associated search volume) is probably not quite good enough to justify development- unless you have a personal interest in the subject matter in which case it's more a labour of love!"

So you are giving the same advice I am, don't develop, look for something else.

OK quick maths recap.

$36/year revenue on $10/year costs is $26/year profit.

With me so far?

A $120 investment with a $26/year profit equates to a 21.6% yield plus any appreciation of the domain.

Not actually a loss if you work it out. Certainly a lot better than the return on .com domains which have suffered a real loss of what 25% over the last 5 years (going from your previous comments - I thought it was more personally)

David, developing a site and spending $120 with the hopes of having $26 net income a year isn't profitable in my books, unless your time is worth $0 and you think the site will last over 5 years with no further work.

The main point I'd like you to take away and think about is that you shouldn't dismiss search volume as being irrelevant to the value of a domain. It does actually make a difference.

David, I never said anything like that. Please reread what I have said.

Sadly for the OP, in this case, IMHO, the metrics don't really add up to justify developing.

You could have saved yourself paragraphs of writing by just reading what I had said (instead of what you'd have liked me to have said) and seeing it is exactly the same as what you've just said.
 

DavidL

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Not sure what you are talking about. My success rate is maybe 30%. Are you just making stuff up for the heck of it or just guessing?

Oh I see. I thought that because you are always so dead against developing and the fact that you have only developed 12 of your thousands of quality domains in 10+ years suggested it didn't work out for you. So why did you stop then?

"However saying that, I think this domain (and associated search volume) is probably not quite good enough to justify development- unless you have a personal interest in the subject matter in which case it's more a labour of love!"

So you are giving the same advice I am, don't develop, look for something else.

Yes, glad you spotted that.

David, developing a site and spending $120 with the hopes of having $26 net income a year isn't profitable in my books, unless your time is worth $0 and you think the site will last over 5 years with no further work.

It's profitable to the tune of 21.6% yield plus capital appreciation. I'm sorry but those numbers don't change.

Whether it's profitable enough to make one bother is another question.
David, I never said anything like that. Please reread what I have said.
OK re-read. Abhi stated that the term had 3,000 exacts per month. Your response, verbatim, was:

Has nothing to do with people looking for a website, they aren't searching for "sexyass.com.au".

That, to me, sounds like you are being absolutely dismissive of the search volume.

You could have saved yourself paragraphs of writing by just reading what I had said (instead of what you'd have liked me to have said) and seeing it is exactly the same as what you've just said.

Probably but I didn't agree with your dismissive attitude to search volume, that's all. No biggie.
 

snoopy

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Oh I see. I thought that because you are always so dead against developing and the fact that you have only developed 12 of your thousands of quality domains in 10+ years suggested it didn't work out for you. So why did you stop then?

I'm against junk development. I think most of the developing that is done just because someone has a domain is a mistake.

Not sure why you are asking why I stopped because I haven't. I think developing 12 domains is a lot. Personally I don't think I could develop more than a couple of domains a year. For those trying to develop scores of domains, paying people to build MFA sites, that isn't real development, it is just MFA stuff that in the vast majority of case will make very little and is the type of site that will constantly be on Google radar to scrap.

It will have pressure form both sides of fence in terms of Google wanting it out of the index or pushed lower as well as pressure from declining PPC rates.

It's profitable to the tune of 21.6% yield plus capital appreciation. I'm sorry but those numbers don't change.

How about working in McDonalds? That provides a 100% annual return on investment.

It is not returning 21.6% because it isn't passive income.

OK re-read. Abhi stated that the term had 3,000 exacts per month. Your response, verbatim, was:

Has nothing to do with people looking for a website, they aren't searching for "sexyass.com.au".

That, to me, sounds like you are being absolutely dismissive of the search volume.

David,

Why not include what I was actually replying to since you are now starting to quote things properly instead of giving your own translation of it? I'll highlight the important part that my response relates to.

Originally Posted by abhi
mate, there are 3000 Australian typing the same keyword every month even though there is no Website.

My response is not about the search volume being low, it is a response to the OP's confusion about search volume compared to people looking for the site.

The problem is that the traffic is worth very little. If that was a high value term it could be a goldmine. It isn't though, the traffic is near worthless and the domain is worth nothing in my view.

The fact is the poster could buy a far more viable domain in .com.au for ~$100, something with commercial focus, a real market, so why spend time developing a junk domain just because it was available?
 

DavidL

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Bored of this now. You keep writing rambling arguments why this domain is not worth developing. I agree. I said I agree on the first post and I still agree now.

BTW do you want to look at developing one of your domains together? One with high search volume?
 

findtim

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LOL, i have a bucksparty website to build so i am FREE to surf LOL, now maybe the cost of the domain is actually worth something !!

I think this thread is turning downhill?

tim

geee, i was wrong, it didn't turn downhill it turned into an avalanche

tim
 

abhi

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wow... where did we start and where did we end up....

never thought sexyass.com.au will go that far:D
 

findtim

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this is starting to look like a pub fight over the pool table because someone played "C pool"
 

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