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Chris.C

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OK so I have been having some naughty thoughts of late, you know the ones where you go "can you imagine if" and I thought I'd start a discussion about one of them..

:p

So I was doing some research into some potential domains to hand reg the other day, and I often come across a lot of domains that I think are "decent", as in you could be confident they'd fetch between $50 and $100 on the expiry auctions but I don't think they are the sort of domains that are worth investing in from a domainers point of view (ie I feel if you are unlikely to be able to sell a domain for $500+ to a retail buyer it's rarely worth the $20 investment once you factor your time and risk etc)

But it got me thinking what's stopping NetFleet or Drop going around registering these "decent" yet marginal domains and then just deleting them so they expire and go to their expiry auctions where they can more than recoup their $20 reg fee?

Or better yet registers those typical trademark domains that everyone registers but eventually get them PDed for trademark infringement yet they still somehow get loads of bids on NF and Drop when they are expiring - seems like easy money for NF and Drop.

Or even better NF and Drop could pay domainers some sort of "fee" to and convince domainers to liquidate some of the more marginal domains from their portfolios rather than continuing to renew them.

I guess my point is with NF and Drop having a lot of incentive to get domains up on their expiry auctions why don't they don't "manufacture" environments where more domains end up on the expiry lists...

:D
 

neddy

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OK so I have been having some naughty thoughts of late, you know the ones where you go "can you imagine if" and I thought I'd start a discussion about one of them..

:p

So I was doing some research into some potential domains to hand reg the other day, and I often come across a lot of domains that I think are "decent", as in you could be confident they'd fetch between $50 and $100 on the expiry auctions but I don't think they are the sort of domains that are worth investing in from a domainers point of view (ie I feel if you are unlikely to be able to sell a domain for $500+ to a retail buyer it's rarely worth the $20 investment once you factor your time and risk etc)

But it got me thinking what's stopping NetFleet or Drop going around registering these "decent" yet marginal domains and then just deleting them so they expire and go to their expiry auctions where they can more than recoup their $20 reg fee?

Or better yet registers those typical trademark domains that everyone registers but eventually get them PDed for trademark infringement yet they still somehow get loads of bids on NF and Drop when they are expiring - seems like easy money for NF and Drop.

Or even better NF and Drop could pay domainers some sort of "fee" to and convince domainers to liquidate some of the more marginal domains from their portfolios rather than continuing to renew them.

I guess my point is with NF and Drop having a lot of incentive to get domains up on their expiry auctions why don't they don't "manufacture" environments where more domains end up on the expiry lists...

:D

Wash your mouth out with soap Chris! :p
 

Chris.C

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OK so the registering trademarks then deleting them so other will buy and get in trouble with AUDA lacks ethics, but is there really an "ethical" dilemma with registering "decent" generic termed domains that you delete so that they go to auction expiry auctions?

No one gets hurt in that case - they are still risking their reg fee - no laws are being broken - sure AUDA might wiggle their finger and say it's in bad spirit - but I don't even know if the AUDA policies have a provision for this sort thing...
 

DavidL

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Wash your mouth out with soap Chris! :p

Why? Nothing wrong with the idea IMO. However the time factor finding these unregistered 'marginal' domains would probably make it unviable. Also Netfleet only win 80% or so of domains so this further makes it risky


How about.... Ethics?

Nothing unethical about it at all.

OK so the registering trademarks then deleting them so other will buy and get in trouble with AUDA lacks ethics, but is there really an "ethical" dilemma with registering "decent" generic termed domains that you delete so that they go to auction expiry auctions?

No one gets hurt in that case - they are still risking their reg fee - no laws are being broken - sure AUDA might wiggle their finger and say it's in bad spirit - but I don't even know if the AUDA policies have a provision for this sort thing...

Exactly right.
 

Chris.C

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However the time factor finding these unregistered 'marginal' domains would probably make it unviable. Also Netfleet only win 80% or so of domains so this further makes it risky
I don't know about everyone else but I still hand reg names from time to time and for every 1 I hand reg there are normally 3 or 4 that I think are "marginal" but would probably get a few bids on NF.

I figured it'd be a way to make a bit of cashflow on the side while hunting for domains to hand reg.
 

DavidL

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I don't know about everyone else but I still hand reg names from time to time and for every 1 I hand reg there are normally 3 or 4 that I think are "marginal" but would probably get a few bids on NF.

I figured it'd be a way to make a bit of cashflow on the side while hunting for domains to hand reg.

Yeah I've noticed you, in particular, have a great knack for finding quality hand-reg domains! Even so, to make any real impact, you'd have to find at least 10 such domains day in day out which would be tough going.
 

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