Members Are Grumpy auDA!

[findtim]

@DomainNames, cut and paste the info into your own website and refer to it from there, you'll solve the "missing link" issue. index it all as a resource.
although the reality is people don't click links unless 2 things happen, 1st the intro to the link is enticing and 2nd the link goes STRAIGHT to the point and not the top of the article, hints are also good " go to article, search the word "direct" and it will take you to the paragraph "
anyway, thats how i like it, like a youtube video " click here, then skip to 2min 45sec"

tim

 

[Scott.L]

@DomainNames

You do offer some very interesting points. I clicked on the links provided and did some digging and found additional support for why resolution 3 is important. You can see within the HK constitution that it allows for the purpose of its own in-house registry service and also the administration of domain names. auDA constitution doesnt include such objects and activities and requires a special resolution to do so.

MEMORANDUM AND ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION OF HONG KONG
INTERNET REGISTRATION CORPORATION LIMITED

3. OBJECTS & POWERS
The objects of the Company are:-

(c) to administer a registration system for all levels of Internet domain names under the Hong Kong country code “.hk ccTLD” and its other equivalents and to establish and develop a self-regulatory framework in respect of such registration system;

(d) to provide services for registration of all levels of Internet domain names under the .hk ccTLD and its other equivalents including but not limited to registry services, registrar services and other services ancillary thereto;


Cheers

 

[DomainNames]

@DomainNames

You do offer some very interesting points. I clicked on the links provided and did some digging and found additional support for why resolution 3 is important. You can see within the HK constitution that it allows for the purpose of its own in-house registry service and also the administration of domain names. auDA constitution doesnt include such objects and activities and requires a special resolution to do so.

MEMORANDUM AND ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION OF HONG KONG
INTERNET REGISTRATION CORPORATION LIMITED

3. OBJECTS & POWERS
The objects of the Company are:-

(c) to administer a registration system for all levels of Internet domain names under the Hong Kong country code “.hk ccTLD” and its other equivalents and to establish and develop a self-regulatory framework in respect of such registration system;

(d) to provide services for registration of all levels of Internet domain names under the .hk ccTLD and its other equivalents including but not limited to registry services, registrar services and other services ancillary thereto;


Cheers

Thanks Scott, The few people who read the info seem to find it useful.. those who do not will not be learning much obviously...

As I said many of the posts people have done on this forum with old auDA links and no content now have no use...they are useless. Just what some at auDA may want it seems as they censor their own content heavily now.

On my mobile I would rather read the info instead of having to click onto other screens ans urls.. also a reason for the cut and paste. More people are just reading this stuff on their mobiles.

 

[DomainNames]

@DomainNames, cut and paste the info into your own website and refer to it from there, you'll solve the "missing link" issue. index it all as a resource. although the reality is people don't click links unless 2 things happen, 1st the intro to the link is enticing and 2nd the link goes STRAIGHT to the point and not the top of the article, hints are also good " go to article, search the word "direct" and it will take you to the paragraph "
anyway, thats how i like it, like a youtube video " click here, then skip to 2min 45sec"

tim

Tim as an auDA Board Director if you can get all of the auDA information back on the auDA website which has been deleted we can just use the auDA web links.... but who know for how long before they go dead again with NO PAGE FOUND

There is a role you can play to help out.

Surely some auDA Board Directors will stand up on the record for true accountability and transparency. Being "unanimous" in supporting the crazy over censoring and deletion of previous auDA public website material will be the downfall of many at auDA and the auDA Board.

If you are FOR the material being back on the auDA website then say so. Don't go down with the ship...

I do hope you sign the petition. It will reestablish some confidence. As a director it is in the best interests of auDA for you to also sign it.
WWW.GRUMPY.COM.AU
http://www.grumpy.com.au/petition/

 

[johno69]

Let's all remember the formula

impact = quality of post ÷ length

The longer a post is the less notice people will take.

DN's posts have been tldr for a long time now. Pretty much as soon as I see the name I keep scrolling.

 

[DomainNames]

DN's posts have been tldr for a long time now. Pretty much as soon as I see the name I keep scrolling.

When you write something worth reading PM me. I note you make this comment often but lack the effort to really post useful information yourself.. just keep scrolling

 

[DomainNames]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Internet_Registration_Authority

• CIRA is a member-driven organization.
• Membership in CIRA is included in the cost of a .CA domain, and open to anyone who holds a .CA domain.
  
• There are approximately 15,000 CIRA members as of January 2013.
• A Board of Directors, consisting of both elected and appointed members, sets CIRA's strategic directions. Board members are elected annually by CIRA Members through an online process.

Developing story CIRA http://www.itbusiness.ca/news/web-r...ce-competition-to-operate-dot-ca-domain/49551

 

[johno69]

When you write something worth reading PM me. I note you make this comment often but lack the effort to really post useful information yourself.. just keep scrolling

I won't be PMing you any time soon. I don't need to your validation. But more to the point if you keep your posts more specific and stop the 200 paragraphs with reference links each one, people might have time to read them.

Keep in mind, not everyone here is a full time domainer like you seem to be. But we ARE still effected by whatever happens. Keeping us informed is one thing, overloading us with extra stuff is pointless.

My effort goes into a lot of things in my life, not just posting links on forums. I'll leave that to you.

 

[neddy]

Surely some auDA Board Directors will stand up on the record for true accountability and transparency. Being "unanimous" in supporting the crazy over censoring and deletion of previous auDA public website material will be the downfall of many at auDA and the auDA Board.

If you are FOR the material being back on the auDA website then say so. Don't go down with the ship...

Agreed in spades!

 

[neddy]

Hope the auDA Directors read this article on Domainer before they have their meeting today. They can easily heal some self-inflicted wounds.

Wonder if they'll get Tim a cake today? Happy Birthday.

 

[DomainNames]

Hope the auDA Directors read this article on Domainer before they have their meeting today. They can easily heal some self-inflicted wounds.

Wonder if they'll get Tim a cake today? Happy Birthday.

Instead of birthday cake perhaps they can all share some "humple pie" today and address the escalating concerns and revolt. That is what everyone was promised wasn't it... more member engagement, more government engagement, listening, more accountability, more openness, more transparency and more improvements etc? What have we actually seen occur instead?

It may be winding up time?

https://www.auda.org.au/about-auda/our-org/constitution/
"8 WINDING UP

On dissolution of the Company, the right to administer the .au ccTLD must either be transferred on to another entity nominated or approved by the Commonwealth of Australia or, in the absence of such approval, be transferred to the Commonwealth of Australia.

If upon the winding up or dissolution of auDA there remains, after the satisfaction of all its debts and liabilities, any property or money whatsoever, the remaining assets shall not be paid or distributed to the Members but shall be transferred to the subsequent entity approved by the Commonwealth of Australia to manage the .au ccTLD."​

 

[Lemon]

It may be winding up time?

And what will that solve?

 

[neddy]

And what will that solve?

Exactly.

To use a sporting analogy, auDA has been our "Club" for a long time, and I'm a diehard supporter. We just need a new coach; and a better and more responsive Chairman and committee that share the same vision as the members. Why start up a new franchise with all the pain that entails?

 

[snoopy]

And what will that solve?

Best thing about it would be removal of the demand/supply model. I don't think what is currently in place can be "fixed up".

AUDA's solution seem to be trying to water down thing with more independents that has become a farce with independents simply appointed by a supply stacked board and the chairman's "conversion" to an independent.

 

[Scott.L]

Best thing about it would be removal of the demand/supply model. I don't think what is currently in place can be "fixed up".

AUDA's solution seem to be trying to water down thing with more independents that has become a farce with independents simply appointed by a supply stacked board and the chairman's "conversion" to an independent.

Like riding a bike with one wheel and no seat.

 

[neddy]

Some light relief thanks to my son Luke. We're organising a protest group for the S249 meeting!

 

[Lemon]

Best thing about it would be removal of the demand/supply model. I don't think what is currently in place can be "fixed up".

I disagree and agree.
We all know the demand/supply model has flaws and this can be addressed in a constructive way with consultation with members and changes to the constitution.
It is important that members continue to have a majority representation on the board
Perhaps the ratio of supply/demand class directors should reflect the actual member numbers ie 2/6 or 3/5 supply/demand directors.
Alternatively remove the demand/supply model totally and just have 8 member directors, although supply side may not be happy about this.
Alternatively create another class of member for example "Professional" which could incorporate designers, lawyers etc.

auDA should sort the issue out once and for all and go through the process of a panel to finally address the matter and have some constructive and fair changes.

 

[neddy]

auDA should sort the issue out once and for all and go through the process of a panel to finally address the matter and have some constructive and fair changes.

+1

And once they agree to the changes after proper consultation with all stakeholders, don't move the goalposts!

 

[Suzabro]

Please note that today we’ve updated the rules to address some of the concerns raised on this and similar threads. We’ll leave what is here now, but going forward can everyone please follow the new rules when quoting content and linking to external sites.

You can read the update here:

https://www.dntrade.com.au/threads/...-external-content-or-links-to-in-posts.11457/

 

[DomainNames]

Any updates from today's auDA Board meeting or do we need to wait until the next issue of www.domainer.com.au?