guitarmaker(dot)com(dot)au
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Data Glasses
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limited appeal low $xxx at best imho
findtim
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forget that this website is 2011 as these people are still around, thus my comment "find the end user"
its ABSOLUTE BULL that the domain is worth $0 snoopy.
http://www.melbourneguitarmakersfestival.com/guitar_makers_festival_main_page.htm
look at the talent in this industry, these people are making money and the prices on these guitars won't be cheap.
paul kelly has a movie out, australian music is strong, tamworth festival is growing , you can NOT put a ZERO on that domain.
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spacey: low $xxx ??? how much have you spent on guitars? or better still if i gave you $50K who much would you spend on guitars?
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just research the target market and then you will know the value of the domain, if you sit on ya bum and AMA it THEN its worth $0
tim
its ABSOLUTE BULL that the domain is worth $0 snoopy.
http://www.melbourneguitarmakersfestival.com/guitar_makers_festival_main_page.htm
look at the talent in this industry, these people are making money and the prices on these guitars won't be cheap.
paul kelly has a movie out, australian music is strong, tamworth festival is growing , you can NOT put a ZERO on that domain.
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spacey: low $xxx ??? how much have you spent on guitars? or better still if i gave you $50K who much would you spend on guitars?
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just research the target market and then you will know the value of the domain, if you sit on ya bum and AMA it THEN its worth $0
tim
chris
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Hi Snoopy, when you say it is worth nothing, do you mean $0 or do you mean not worth trying to squeeze any dosh out of it?
I guess from a domainer's perspective, you're right.
Data Glasses
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yet to a guitar maker .......it means something
snoopy
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So twice you tell us it definitely is not worth zero, then your conclusion is that if you put it up for auction ("AMA it") you will get zero?
If domainers will not pay anything for a domain it is worthless.
Much like if sugar traders won't pay anything for a container of bad sugar it is worthless. Doesn't matter if Joe Bloggs would buy a small bag of it if it were in front of his eyes in a corner store, it is going to dumped well before then, it is not worth trying to sell.
Someone might be able to run around, do hours of research then make phone calls/send emails and have a chance of getting a sale but that is true of many worthless domains. That revenue is the result of time put in.
At the end of the day it comes back to the same boring concepts,
- No search volume
- No advertisers
- No large organisations
- Barely anyone actually using the term in their domain.
snoopy
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Both. Worthless and not worth trying to sell.
findtim
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SO tell me, STATE, that for every domain you have sold you have NEVER made a phone call, sent an email, researched the potential buyers?
Funny how NF and drop are active in this way of selling domains.......... maybe they don't know what the are doing?
so the bottom line apparently everyone is "sit on your bum and do nothing to promote your domain "
actually don't even bother putting it on NF AMA as that would be far to much effort.
snoopy formula is "lets MAKE them come to you or don't buy the domain in the first place" .
snoopy, i post against your rhetoric as i have the inner strenght to handle it, but your constant negativity for someone making a couple of hundred bucks needs to stop IMHO.
think where you started, if you didn't try and fail and then try again and the succeed but went straight to success then good on ya but we can not in ANY instance belittle people when they are starting out.
What i would prefer is people like YOU to encourage and become a mentor which i have said before, you have the power to do that.
people buying these type of domains are learning the game, they don't have the $10K for a premium but they can get there and by the time they do they will have done the hard yards.
tim
snoopy
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Phoning people, emailing does work but there isn't much money to be made doing it with worthless domains. At least start with a domain of some value, where there is some obvious buyers. Starting with a worthless domain the person might as well be mowing lawns. It is making money from your own labour, not capitalising on a valuable domain.
Personally I wait for inquiries to come in but that isn't for everyone.
They are doing it with names of some value, they don't start making calls with every domain that has 30 searches that they think would get $0 if they didn't make the call.
Tim, I'm telling them the name is worthless. You are leading them up the garden path, claiming the name has value then a few sentences later saying if it went to auction it would get zero. Telling someone something is valuable when you actually think it would get $0 isn't helping them.
Data Glasses
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There are some good 'maker names' out there, cabinet, tool, would be a few to start ...........any others?
AnthonyP
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We started with that assumption but after a few weeks we found that this was not true. We are very successful with domains which you would not find attractive.
There is labour involved but there is also a higher return than the cost of the labour.
Data Glasses
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coffee maker
snoopy
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The results of a typical days auctions speak for themselves,
http://www.netfleet.com.au/auction-history/?date=2013-06-09
http://www.netfleet.com.au/auction-history/?date=2013-06-08
http://www.netfleet.com.au/auction-history/?date=2013-06-07
http://www.netfleet.com.au/auction-history/?date=2013-06-06
Hundreds of names for sale, a very small % get bids. Of the dozen names that get bids most of those end at $10.
AnthonyP
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Sigh, Long weekends are hardly typical days to choose in a discussion around the success of labour on a sale price.
We don't typically call clients on the weekends and public holidays.
snoopy
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It is no different to what I stated above any other day, a dozen names with bids out of hundreds of auctions, and of the small % that actually get a bid most are for $10.
http://www.netfleet.com.au/auction-history/?date=2013-06-06
http://www.netfleet.com.au/auction-history/?date=2013-06-05
http://www.netfleet.com.au/auction-history/?date=2013-06-04
http://www.netfleet.com.au/auction-history/?date=2013-06-03
http://www.netfleet.com.au/auction-history/?date=2013-06-02
http://www.netfleet.com.au/auction-history/?date=2013-06-01
The idea that Netfleet are having employees market the type of name in this thread and getting bidders is nonsense, though I can understand you'd like people using the service to think otherwise.
Netfleet are not silly enough to spend time marketing worthless domains.
