auDA 60% Foreign Controlled

[Cheyne]

"One of the registrars that has signed up all their employees is Afilias"

False. Afilias is not a registrar, they are the registry operator. This is elementary stuff.

"The future of your business is now at the mercy of four registrars not based in Australia"

False. Of the companies that were quoted in the email from auDA, all are based in Australia except one - and that one isn't a registrar.

"auDA have given off control of the Australian domain name space to these four businesses - and it's been intentional"

False. There is no evidence to suggest that this is even remotely true which makes it nothing more than speculation. Any good journalist knows to preface these types of comments as such.

... and this is just from the first 90 seconds of Jim's horribly inaccurate diatribe that I could bare to watch.

You all carry on about how Cameron has no idea what he is doing, yet your own self-appointed spokesperson who claims to be so deeply concerned about the industry doesn't even know the difference between the registry and a registrar?!

Thankfully this will all soon be over with and we will get on with backing in every recommendation from the Government review whether you like it or not. And don't forget who asked for the Government to intervene in the first place.

 

[snoopy]

Cheyne,

How many membership have you got?
Did those employees get t-shirts as well?
Was the payment made in bulk?

 

[Cheyne]

 

[snoopy]

9000 memberships??

Seems the answer the questions 2 & 3 is yes?

 

[snoopy]

Regarding the Government Review, auDA has gone against recommendation 11., with a little help from Cheyne (Ventraip),

 

[Jimboot]

We have a new list

 

[Jimboot]

"One of the registrars that has signed up all their employees is Afilias"

False. Afilias is not a registrar, they are the registry operator. This is elementary stuff.


False. Of the companies that were quoted in the email from auDA, all are based in Australia except one - and that one isn't a registrar.

Ok How about . Four businesses, that auDA has a commercial & regulatory role with. Sorry didn't have time to break down all the company structure and head offices. Certainly their auDA voting workforces are predominantly foreign and therefore subject to local jurisdictions and other commercial and possible political influences.

 

[Jimboot]

Ok looks like the new member list published today only has some √s removed bar 1. All the extra 'i' d MIT employees still seem to be there. You can find 48 of them just searching for "ii"

 

[Bacon Farmer]

So the the executive chairman of Ventraip, Cheyne Jonstone, thinks it's ok to flood the membership of auDA with foreign workers but wants us to buy local.

Recommendations for webhosting please!

 

[snoopy]

So the the executive chairman of Ventraip, Cheyne Jonstone, thinks it's ok to flood the membership of auDA with foreign workers but wants us to buy local.

The buy local bit is a sale pitch only.

 

[Scott.L]

955 Applicants

• 7 minute Average handle time to contact each applicant [approx]
• 6,685 minutes of talk time

Telstra business charges to Philippines [Per minute] $1.48c + $0.40c connection fee

Approx. $50,000.00 {in telephone call costs}




955 applicants @ $22.00 each = $21,010.00 + 100% Discount [?] $0.00
WHO PAID for the APPLICANTS MEMBERSHIP?

 

[snoopy]

955 applicants @ $22.00 each = $21,010.00 + 100% Discount [?] $0.00
WHO PAID for the APPLICANTS MEMBERSHIP?

Rumoured that the 4 registrars/registry paid via a bulk payment. I doubt the "members" paid anything.

 

[Scott.L]

I am happy to pay the invoice for the $22 fee if you provide me with a proxy vote in my favour. The membership will be confirmed on around 10 October 2003.

auDA SGM 2003

The Board of auDA considers Mr James Guy's (and through Mr James Guy, Guy & Associates') conduct is detrimental to the interests of auDA and to the objects of auDA, and believe that such conduct ought not to be tolerated

 

[snoopy]

Yep, same type of stuff going on.

 

[Scott.L]

The irony is, the very members that were approved by the Board are now required to vote against themselves and their employer because the decision of the Board has caused detriment to the OBJECTS of auDA. [as per the previous Boards ruling re: James Guy]

Effectively, those supply employees are to oust their own Employer as Members of auDA, including themselves as New Members.

 

[Scott.L]

Employees could turn on them, demanding higher pay or else they will vote against them - LOL - Imagine that.

 

[Bacon Farmer]

You are assuming they know they have been signed up as members.

From the errors on the auDA website it looks like it was done in bulk and not with individual applications.

That's something Tim could check but doubt he will.

 

[snoopy]

Employees could turn on them, demanding higher pay or else they will vote against them - LOL - Imagine that.

All sorts of risk. They’ve probably each got the power to shut auDA down. What happens if Verisign or Neustar or a large registrar buys one of them?

 

[Jimboot]

Voting rights become an asset on the balance sheet?

 

[Cheyne]

Ok How about . Four businesses, that auDA has a commercial & regulatory role with. Sorry didn't have time to break down all the company structure and head offices. Certainly their auDA voting workforces are predominantly foreign and therefore subject to local jurisdictions and other commercial and possible political influences.

How about you take the video down so that you stop misinforming your audience (and making yourself look uneducated on the topic), and re-shoot it with factually correct information?

If you have a problem with foreign people being added to the auDA membership list then that is entirely your choice to call it out, but it needs to be done right and supported by evidence. So far you have failed on both fronts because you have made the mistake of taking the gossip concocted on these forums as gospel.

If you ever want to have a genuine conversation that is fair and reasonable then give me a call any day of the week.